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Ex-Trump Attorney Says Trump Is Taking Tips From McCarthy-era Playbook

THE SUBPOENA BEING THE FIRST BIG STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATE. >>> JOINING US NOW, MICHAEL COHEN, THE FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY AND 76ER FOR DONALD TRUMP. MICHAEL, GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU, ALISYN. >> LET’S START THERE, THAT’S WHAT WE HEARD THIS MORNING FROM ALISSA R. GRIFFITH, THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR IN THE WHITE HOUSE. SHE SAID THAT TEAM TRUMP HAS BEEN PROVIDING AND SUPPLYING LAWYERS FOR THE STAFFERS WHO ARE TESTIFYING IN FRONT OF THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE, INCLUDING CASSIDY HUTCHINSON BEFORE SHE CHANGED TO HER OWN LAWYER. AS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT PRACTICE? >> YES, THIS IS PART AND PARCEL FOR THE DONALD TRUMP GAME PLAN. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU PAY FOR THE LAWYERS. THAT WAY THE LAWYERS REALLY AREN’T DEDICATED TO THE CLIENT. THEY’RE DEDICATED TO THE GUY PAYING THE BILL, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS TEAM TRUMP. THE REASON THEY’RE DOING THAT IS TO KEEP YOU ON MESSAGE THE SECOND YOU DEVIATE FROM THE MA EDGE THAT DONALD WANTS, YOU GET CUT OFF. SOMETHING HE DID TO ME AS WELL. I AM VERY PROUD OF HER FOR REALIZING EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE AND MAKING THE DECISION TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE TRUMP PAID-FOR COUNSEL AND MOF TO HER OWN. SOME, AN ATTORNEY THAT WILL NOW HAVE HER BEST INTEREST IN. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE TESTIFIED TO WAS THE THINGS THAT SHE SAW AND HEARD, INCLUDING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP’S OUTBURSTS. SO LET ME PLAY A PORTION OF THAT FOR YOU. >> MR. TRUMP TEN THEN USED HIS FREE HAND TO LUNGE TOWARDS BOBBY ENGEL AND WHEN MR. ORANATO RECOUNTED THE STORY, HE MOTIONED TOWARDS CLAVICLES.
THERE WERE TIMES IN MY TENURE THAT I WAS KNOWN OF HIM THROWING DISHES OR FLIP AC TABLE CLOTH. >> DOES THAT SEEM LIKE DONALD DONALD TRUMP? >> I HAVE NOT SEEN HIM TAKE A BURGER AND THROW IT AGAINST THE WALL, I’VE SEEN HIM THROW THINGS, NEWSPAPERS, A MAGAZINE, SOME PAPER, BUT I’VE NEVER SEEN HIM THROW CATCH-UP. IS IT POSSIBLE? SURE. BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT, LOOK, EVERYBODY WHO SAW THOSE JANUARY 6th HEARINGS WILL SAY THE SAME THING. THIS WAS A GREAT, GREAT, THIS WAS JUST A GREAT FLY ON THE WALL PRESENTATION. I MEAN, IT’S LIKE GOING TO SEE “TOP GUN MAVERICK.” YOU WALKED OUT AND FELT GOOD THAT FINALLY SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS WAS THE IMPETUS FOR MERRICK GARLAND TO DO SOMETHING BY THE DOJ. THE PROBLEM WITH THE TESTIMONY IS THAT IT’S ALL HEARSAY. AS IT RELATES TO DONALD TRUMP. >> I MEAN, NOT EXACTLY SO. SOME OF THE SHE ACTUALLY HEARD, SHELVES IN THE ROOM OF IT. >> IT’S HEARSAY, OUT OF COURT STATEMENTS ASSERTED THEREIN. THAT’S THE DEFINITION OF HEARSAY. DONALD WILL SAY, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I NEVER TOLD ANY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE TO DO IT. SHOW ME IF YOU THINK I DID SAY IT, SHOW ME ONE PIECE OF PAPER THAT I HAPPENED WROTE. SHOW ME AN E-MAIL, A TEXT MESSAGE, SHOW ME A VOICEMAIL. DONALD TRUMP LEARNED FROM THE REST. I’M REFERRING TO ROY COHEN, HAVE NO FINGERPRINTS ON ANYTHING. ALL OF THESE AC COLIGHTS AROUND HIM, EACH AND EVERY ONE IS IN JEOPARDY. >> ONE IN THE SECRET SFT, SHE HEARD THE STORY ABOUT HIM LUNGING FOR THE WHEEL OF THE BEAST AS THEY CALLED, THE PRESIDENT, LIMO AND THE CLAVICLES, THAT’S NOW BEING DISPUTED BY THE SECRET SERVICE. DOES THAT 10U7BD LIKE THE DONALD TRUMP YOU KNOW? >> YEAH, SO, LOOK, I’VE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN IN A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION. I’M NOT TALKING AS AN ADULT. EVEN AS A KID. SO THE FACT, YOU COULD REST ASSURED THAT WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON, IF HE REALLY WANTED TO GO TO THE CAPITOL, HE WOULD BE THIS IRATE. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. DOES THAT MEAN HE WOULD LUNGE AT A SECRET SERVICE AGENT, GO TO GRAB THE STEERING WHEEL? I’M NOT SURE. BUT THAT’S DOUBLE HEARSAY. SHE HEARD IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAD HEARD IT. AGAIN, THAT’S NOT GOING TO BE THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN THAT WE ALL ARE LOOKING FOR IN ORDER TO SEE DONALD WITH HIS HAND BEHIND HIS BACK AND HIS COTTON CANDY FLOPPING IN THE WIND. THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE. THE BAD PART ABOUT THAT TESTIMONY IS WHAT IT DOES, IT GIVES DONALD. I KNOW THE PLAYBOOK BETTER THAN ANYONE. I WAS INVOLVED IN WRITING IT. THEY’RE GOING TO USE THAT TESTIMONY, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S DISPROVEN TO ATTEMPT TO DISPROVE EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT THAT CASSIDY MADE AND THAT’S A SHAME. BUT THEY WILL USE THAT AS A YOU KNOW A MEANS TO DISCREDIT HER. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD DURING THAT TESTIMONY, DURING THAT HEARING I SHOULD SAY IS CONGRESSWOMAN LIZ CHENEY TALKING ABOUT INTIMIDATION THAT SOME WITNESSES HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO. SHE SAID THINGS THAT BASICALLY THEY GET PHONE CALLS THAT SAY THINGS LIKE AS LONG AS AS I CONTINUE TO BE A TEAM PLAYER, THEY KNOW I’M ON THE RIGHT TEAM. I’M DOING THE RIGHT THING. I WANT TO STAY IN THE GOOD GRACES OF TRUMP WORLD. THEY WERE REMINDED WITNESSES A COUPLE TIMES, TRUMP DOES READ TRANSCRIPTS. I THINK YOU MAY KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT THOSE TACTICS. >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET ME SEE, HE DOES NOT READ IT. HE HAS SOMEBODY READ IT AND GIVE HIM THE BULLET POINTS TO IT. BUT I RECEIVED THE IDENTICAL TYPE OF COMMUNICATIONS. THOSE WERE BY BOB COSTELLO, DIRECTLY AFTER THE RAID ON MY HOME HOTEL LAW OFFICE AND SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX, WHERE THEY WOULD SAY, OUR FRIEND LOVES YOU, STAY LOYAL, STAY THE COURSE. HE’S GOT YOUR BACK. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY REGARDED AND THESE ARE ALL YOU KNOW PLAYS THAT HE HAD LEARNED EARLY ON IN HIS LIFE FROM PEOPLE LIKE ROY COHN. IT IS A MOB-STYLE SCENARIO, WHERE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE FOLKS STAY IN YOUR ORBIT AND IF, IN FACT, THAT YOU STEP OUT OF THE ORBIT, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY DO SOME PRETTY BAD THINGS TO YOU. NOW WHAT DONALD WILL SAY IS I DON’T WANT WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, THAT THEY’RE DOING — I DIDN’T TELL ANYBODY TO DO IT. WHO ILL THAT MAY BE TRUE, HE ALSO DIDN’T INDIVIDUALLY TELL ANYONE TO SPECIFICALLY RAID THE CAPITOL. BUT HE SAID IT IN A WHAT I THAT PEOPLE TAKE IT AS THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE. I RECEIVED MORE HATE MAIL, MORE HATE E-MAILS AND SO ON YOU CAN IMAGINE. SOME OF THE MOST VIAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING FROM MY RELIGION TO MY CHILDREN TO MY LIFE TO MY WIFE’S, TO MY FAMILY. THEY ARE JUST VIAL THINGS THAT ARE SAID BY PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THEY’RE DOING SOME TYPE OF A SERVICE TO DONALD WHEN, IN FACT, YOU KNOW, IT’S HER LIFE, MY LIFE, ANYBODY’S LIFE WHO STEPS FORWARD AND YOU KNOW AND TALKS TRUST TO POWER. YOU PUT YOURSELF INTO THAT SPOT AND A LOT OF THE ACTIONS THA
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